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Desertrose
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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

Mezanmi nou tout gin rezon wi. Se pa yon sel factè ki fè biznis ayisien pa reysi non. Bon marco (aka kill three birds with one stone) pale bagay la jan li ye a. Met biznis la pa respekte clyan a. Clyan a pa respekte biznis moun. Min mezanmi, we need to have mutual respect. Gade lot jou male Florida mwin kouri machinn lan tout Miami pou mwin jwinn yon bon restoran ayisien mwin pa fouti jwinn youn non. Premier kote male client yo pran batay lan restauran a paske, dude cut in line. So male yon lot kote. Lot kote a mwin kanpe 15 minute pesonn pa vinn di mwin bonjou chin. But they were open for business (could have foold me). Denye kote male a mesye, manje a te chè anpil min li pat pi mal non.

In addition, li ta ranje nou byin si nou te gin yon organizasyon ki pèmet met biznis sa yo ede lot, pataje esperyans yo pou yo ka amelyore sitiasyon bisnis lan komynote nou. Customer service is crucial to the survival of a business. Min ayisien rayi ayisien paray yo. Nou toujou lan ying yang. Min depi nou wè blan nou bese ba pou nou bo bouda yo. I am dishing out good money here. I demand equal treatment. I want my ass kissed too!

Mwin pa wè diferans ant biznis Chinese la ak biznis Ayisien a non. Tout se manje plin grès. Bon si nou vle pale de biznis sal, sevis sal, move jan se lan bisnis Chinese yo pou ou jwinn sa e mwin ka di sa paske lè mwin te ti moun mwin te travay lan youn. Mwin te travay la min ou pata kapab peye mwin pou mwin manje la. Min biznis te fè kob mesye. Kife mwin mande sak fè biznis Chinese la reysi epi pa nou yo pa kapab?

Mwin pa rinmin “croix des bossals” non (I don’t think I ever been there) e se pa ke li lan san mwin non, but what is a Haitian with a taste for authentic Haitian food to do? You put up with bad customer service, rowdy customers, bad service once every six months because you just have no other choice or you can go to the ultra expensive one that just give you the imitation of good Haitian food. Imagine if every single one of those clients to those Haitian businesses thought that way. Can we really expect them to succeed?
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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

first of all I must confess, to you D. I love our creole but I find it hard to read at time, meaning it just does not reaf familiar when you look at it.
I almost did not read the whole thing, but glad I did.

You made a very good point, the chinesse places are as dirty if not worse then the typical haitian restaurant, yet they continue to succeed.

I think the truth of it is, A, we need to respect each other, deliver excellent service, B, cater to our people first the rest of the world will come later, thats my phylosophy.
C. they world in general dont like the chinese, but respect their determination and will,
D. You already know, the rest of the world dont like us, dont know us, dont want to know us, why cater to them, cause they wont come, not in this life time.

I WILL CONTINUE MY NEXT THOUGHT ON A NEW POST


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:: Subject: Re: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

beausoleil wrote:
I think the truth of it is:

A) we need to respect each other, deliver excellent service;
B) cater to our people first the rest of the world will come later, thats my phylosophy;
C) they world in general dont like the chinese, but respect their determination and will; and
D) You already know, the rest of the world dont like us, dont know us, dont want to know us, why cater to them, cause they wont come, not in this life time.


I could not agree more. "Respect yourself and only then will others follow".


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PS: Your post looks even better when you format it nicely icon_smile.gif
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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

thanks van and your right about the format,


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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, Beau good luck with your future venture. I hope that the efforts invested in it flourish and prosper. Also, in the case of your suspected conflict with the realtor and Meekeedee. They are venues to handle it .

I understand that you have taking perhaps a different approach to "business" and have a certain expectation. The idea of serving "our Community" for odd reasons dont always resonate to well with me. It gives me the impression of some form of sectarism that is not always a nobel approach for any prospective successful business. I believe in targetting "the mainstream market" instead for better returns. More work indeed, but higher potential for greater returns.....

Back to the original topic wich was the reason(s) that " Haitian Businesses fail" one aspect of the equation that has been neglected is the "culture and ethics" factor, most of the so call business men and women in our commnunity very little if any formal business education thus their practices do affect and reflect on their output. Anyone or group of uneducated consumer are part of the problems as well.

We need to raise our expectation standards for the benefit of "Our Community". When the businesses dont deliver to the expectations of the consumers they fail period.

Donklod


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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

As we all see, its a matter of Education. In any country education is essential to its success. Lets take Haiti for instance, 80-90% don't know how to read nor write. that's a big factor wether we realize it or not.
Education runs deep: Starts with your surroundings then academics of society.
Education is Key!


Alors, qu'est ce qu'ont dit?
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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

If you look at the running of KC the same way you would look at the running of a business, I think it would be fair to say that this is a failing business, at least for the moment. It is failing for many of the reasons raised throughout this topic: from the vendor to the customers; from the management style of the admin to the expectations of the users, KC is failing.

Again, throughout this topic, we were all very good at throwing great ideas on the reasons why Haitian businesses fail and yet we don’t seem to show any ability to make this small business of ours work. Are we all talk and no action?
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:: Subject: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

lol wow thats a low blow Suc, I would have to disagree with you on that.

I think goddess got it right, EDUCATION IS KEY,
this site in my opinion is a success,
its a success because we are here talking about things that matter and concerns us.

Now you might be reffering to why we are so quiet all the time, it goes back to what goddess said, 80-90% of haitian cant read or write.
now when these people get here, I doubt a computer and those type of topics we discuss will matter to them.

another words this site is ahead of its time.


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:: Subject: Re: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

beausoleil wrote:
lol wow thats a low blow Suc, I would have to disagree with you on that.

Wap swiv Beausoleil,
It seems like Admin is what some users here if I dare say "Love to Hate". icon_cool.gif
What can I say!! It takes thick skin to be in my position.
If this thread was about KC, I could actually enumerate failures and a lot of it would be from users who either refuse or simply can't grasp simple concept.


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:: Subject: Re: Haitian businesses: the reason they fail Reply with quoteBack to top

sucdoj wrote:
If you look at the running of KC the same way you would look at the running of a business, I think it would be fair to say that this is a failing business, at least for the moment. It is failing for many of the reasons raised throughout this topic: from the vendor to the customers; from the management style of the admin to the expectations of the users, KC is failing.

Again, throughout this topic, we were all very good at throwing great ideas on the reasons why Haitian businesses fail and yet we don’t seem to show any ability to make this small business of ours work. Are we all talk and no action?


I'm almost afraid to say I agree with u Sucdoj...

I like the way u twisted it into this analogy here I must admit u put this topic in a perspective I never even looked at before.

Interesting!

I wont say too much just so I can keep the peace and not making it seem as if I am trying to rile things up here again or anything, icon_smile.gif .

But what I will say is that there are very few people who are willing to view things objectively for what they really are, and have enough balls & courage to state the truth.

People like that don't simply accept whatever's placed in front of them.
They have intelligence to recognize when something just aint right nope.gif , the courage to voice it out loud without fearing repercussions that may come as a result, and the compassion to try to do something, or at least offer ideas as to how to try to rectify it. icon_smile.gif

I really admire people like that.

Most importantly, i'm all for giving credit where credit is due..., but one should also be able to point out the good as well as the bad to benefit the betterment of any situation.. .or establishment.

However, on the flip-side, a ti-souosou yes-person who gives way too MUCH credit & constantly finds no fault in an obviously flawed system (proven at that!) is sadly only hindering that person's advancement instead of helping them. very_sad.gif

Thats all i'ma say about that.

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